Speeches by Gardiner.

“Will Thames Water still be in existence to work with you on that, Mr Gorman? That was not a serious question. I will pass back to the Chair.”

“Where do we need to get to, in accordance with the jet zero strategy, by 2030?”

“It was £82, I think.”

“I wanted to clarify that. In effect, expansion is a net drain, in that sense, on the economy. If we can turn back to the whole issue of the carbon price, remind me what the jet zero strategy assumed the carbon price would be by last year.”

“I want to continue the theme of carbon pricing. Before we do, could I clarify, Dr Chapman, this business of more passengers traveling overseas than coming in? The Committee has received evidence from Dr David Metz, who used to be the chief scientist at the Department for Transport. That said that UK visitors going abro…”

“I was fascinated by what you said about those medium‑haul flights and the impact of them.”

“If you were to encapsulate what you think this Committee should be saying, the carbon price, as it stands, is too low in order to enable the expansion that is been predicated. Too many flights are not included in it. Can you elaborate on that?”

“Will Thames Water still be in existence to work with you on that, Mr Gorman? That was not a serious question. I will pass back to the Chair.”

“When do you expect those tests to be completed?”

“I am sure you will provide us with further information on those aspects. The Environment Agency has recently given you regulation 61 notices on PFAS. How are you going to minimise PFAS at your airports? That applies to all airports, not just Heathrow.”

“We are always glad to have an imprimatur for that.”

“First of all, let me create some common ground. Heathrow has done particularly well in terms of the reduction in noise pollution and air pollution and the improvement in air quality around it over the past few years. Of course, these are at risk if there is expansion. How will airports ensure that any expansion deliver…”

“It is Government’s job. We are agreed. Perhaps you would say that it should be a recommendation of this Committee that the Government update the ANPS to take account of the global situation as it now is.”

“Let me just bring you back to the question that I asked. Given that it was predicated on either there being a cap on all UK emissions or that there was a global emissions trading scheme for the sector, and neither of those is the case, do you not think we need to have a national policy statement that takes cognisance o…”

“I wanted to clarify that. In effect, expansion is a net drain, in that sense, on the economy. If we can turn back to the whole issue of the carbon price, remind me what the jet zero strategy assumed the carbon price would be by last year.”

“I want to continue the theme of carbon pricing. Before we do, could I clarify, Dr Chapman, this business of more passengers traveling overseas than coming in? The Committee has received evidence from Dr David Metz, who used to be the chief scientist at the Department for Transport. That said that UK visitors going abro…”

“Where do we need to get to, in accordance with the jet zero strategy, by 2030?”

“First of all, let me create some common ground. Heathrow has done particularly well in terms of the reduction in noise pollution and air pollution and the improvement in air quality around it over the past few years. Of course, these are at risk if there is expansion. How will airports ensure that any expansion deliver…”

“It was £82, I think.”

“What is the problem? Why is the current price so low? What are the factors that are making it impossible for us to do the offsetting in the way that we would want?”