Speeches by Gardiner.

“Mr Gorman, perhaps when you write to us with those stats, you could include what you are factoring in here. By 2040, you have to have 22% SAF in your fuel mix. It is going to be tough to get there. I accept what Mr Robinson was saying about the increase. It is an important industry. There is no doubt about it. It is im…”

“I want to pick up on the revenue certainty mechanism that you were talking about and also talk about the buyout mechanism. There is a buyout provision within what the Government have said to you, is there not? If you do not manage to secure an adequate supply of SAF, you can pay money instead. What are your estimates f…”

“It is on the Government’s website at ACN0004. It is by Dr David Metz. It states that it is £62.29 billion against £28.358 billion. Those are 2019 figures.”

“I should not be flippant.”

“At this rate, they will be able to stay here and enjoy them. That is what we are worried about.”

“For a start, that was not the New Economics Foundation. It was the Government’s chief scientific officer from the Department for Transport. That is the first point. It was not analysis from the New Economics Foundation. I asked him about it and he confirmed it. It was the Government’s own analysis that the net outflow …”

“I am sure.”

“We do need to see that evidence. Could you write to the Committee setting out those figures, the extent to which you see the gain from expansion reducing ticket prices and how that aligns with the offset in the carbon price?”

“Confusing.”

“Mr Gorman, I would agree with you that a trading system is better for the reasons that you have said, but it does not work terribly well when 59% of the permits are free. I wanted to check the hand signals that you were making. You said that expansion would lower the cost to the traveller and you agreed that an increas…”

“Can I put to you something else? If you look at the plans around the three airports, Heathrow, Stansted and London City, the expansion of those airports would constitute a significant increase in carbon emissions. Given that we have looked at the net zero carbon road map that Sustainable Aviation has produced to underp…”

“If we look at the Climate Change Committee’s graphics on this, it is very clear that the largest element—it is half and half, actually—of the reduction in carbon emissions has to come from demand management, and yet it does not appear in the Sustainable Aviation strategy whatsoever.”

“Why do you think it is that the Sustainable Aviation road map for net zero does not include demand management as one of the factors?”

“The Climate Change Committee in the sixth carbon budget was very clear that demand management had to be part of that. It has modified that in the seventh carbon budget, but I wanted to get your thoughts on the form of demand management and how pricing, and obviously carbon pricing, can play a role in that.”

“Basically, we have price signals that are too weak to achieve the objectives that the Government are looking to put in place.”

“It is a great pleasure to serve with you in the Chair, Mr Twigg. May I just ask the Minister whether the Government intend to bring in similar thresholds for such things as benefit overpayments?”

“Of course. I think we all agree that we should have thresholds that are proportionate and do not involve undue bureaucracy while ensuring that money is not badly spent or, indeed, that money that is spent is recovered where it should not have been spent in the first place. Given that we have proportionality in this are…”

“The Minister will be aware that as we speak, the Indian High Commission in London is holding a commemoration service for those who have been lost. He also knows that my constituency of Brent West, which includes Wembley, is the epicentre for the Gujarati community—more than 30% of my constituents are originally from Gu…”

“The failure to get transparent information from the United Nations Special Commission and the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission caused untold damage 22 years ago. What discussions has my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary had with Director General Grossi at the International Atomic …”

“I welcome the statement from the Chair of the Select Committee and the appointment of Dame Vera Baird as the interim chair. Does my hon. Friend share a certain incredulity that the Ministry of Justice took three years to resolve the fee that would be paid to commissioners, and that the recruitment exercise appears to b…”