Speeches by Gardiner.

“We are not part of it yet, are we?”

“I am sure you will provide us with further information on those aspects. The Environment Agency has recently given you regulation 61 notices on PFAS. How are you going to minimise PFAS at your airports? That applies to all airports, not just Heathrow.”

“When do you expect those tests to be completed?”

“Will Thames Water still be in existence to work with you on that, Mr Gorman? That was not a serious question. I will pass back to the Chair.”

“I am sure you will provide us with further information on those aspects. The Environment Agency has recently given you regulation 61 notices on PFAS. How are you going to minimise PFAS at your airports? That applies to all airports, not just Heathrow.”

“Let me just bring you back to the question that I asked. Given that it was predicated on either there being a cap on all UK emissions or that there was a global emissions trading scheme for the sector, and neither of those is the case, do you not think we need to have a national policy statement that takes cognisance o…”

“They are getting a more generous allowance than the rest of the economy, which is only 38%, is it not?”

“If you were to encapsulate what you think this Committee should be saying, the carbon price, as it stands, is too low in order to enable the expansion that is been predicated. Too many flights are not included in it. Can you elaborate on that?”

“Let me just bring you back to the question that I asked. Given that it was predicated on either there being a cap on all UK emissions or that there was a global emissions trading scheme for the sector, and neither of those is the case, do you not think we need to have a national policy statement that takes cognisance o…”

“I was fascinated by what you said about those medium‑haul flights and the impact of them.”

“I want to pick up on the revenue certainty mechanism that you were talking about and also talk about the buyout mechanism. There is a buyout provision within what the Government have said to you, is there not? If you do not manage to secure an adequate supply of SAF, you can pay money instead. What are your estimates f…”

“I want to get your thoughts on CORSIA, the integration of that with the emissions trading scheme and whether that will give us a sufficient level of carbon price to proceed.”

“Mr Gorman, perhaps when you write to us with those stats, you could include what you are factoring in here. By 2040, you have to have 22% SAF in your fuel mix. It is going to be tough to get there. I accept what Mr Robinson was saying about the increase. It is an important industry. There is no doubt about it. It is im…”

“It is Government’s job. We are agreed. Perhaps you would say that it should be a recommendation of this Committee that the Government update the ANPS to take account of the global situation as it now is.”

“Mr Gorman, perhaps when you write to us with those stats, you could include what you are factoring in here. By 2040, you have to have 22% SAF in your fuel mix. It is going to be tough to get there. I accept what Mr Robinson was saying about the increase. It is an important industry. There is no doubt about it. It is im…”

“Basically, we have price signals that are too weak to achieve the objectives that the Government are looking to put in place.”

“The Climate Change Committee in the sixth carbon budget was very clear that demand management had to be part of that. It has modified that in the seventh carbon budget, but I wanted to get your thoughts on the form of demand management and how pricing, and obviously carbon pricing, can play a role in that.”

“We are not part of it yet, are we?”

“To be clear on that, it is seeking to introduce an additional tax on the growth that there is in the sector beyond 85% of the level in 2019.”

“Why do you think it is that the Sustainable Aviation road map for net zero does not include demand management as one of the factors?”