Speeches by Vaughan.

“Is there a protocol to ensure that training is implemented in the real world? It seems you have done a good job in getting people to know what they should know; is there any process to ensure that when there are violent incidents that they are essentially audited against what should have happened?”

“Yes if you could also write to us.”

“I will move on, because of the time, to Rachel Ashurst. What are your comments generally about the extent that violence has increased or reduced at your institution in the last year or so? Can you provide all the data subsequently if you cannot do it now?”

“Do you have a figure on the degree to which the incidence of violence has reduced in the last year, for example?”

“Can I double-check that your mechanisms mean that when there has been a violent incident that you will then assess whether the correct procedures were followed?”

“When you write to us with the figures could you break that down to whether or not violence was used in relation to children of protected characteristics, including race and, if appropriate, neurodivergence so we can see how that breaks down?”

“What proportion of your staff have had the required training? Mr Scott talked about 85% ought to have had that every six months.”

“That is helpful. I do not know whether PAVA is relevant at your—”

“The last couple of months. If we look at the figures as a whole, are they going down or up?”

“You said the rates are low and I think you gave two incidents in the last year or so. Is that—”

“Thank you, Chair. I would like to ask questions about violence and safety. Apologies for being late; my name is Tony Vaughan, the MP for Folkestone and Hythe. For completeness, my interests are as per the register: I am an associate tenant at Doughty Street, and I used to practise in public law. I will start by asking …”

“Did they have this process whereby you would look at the footage together afterwards?”

“You will subsequently in a letter?”

“Pausing there. Do you then discuss the incident with the officers who were involved in that actual incident, and then—”

“Previously was there not the body worn camera safeguard?”

“Okay, thank you.”

“In relation to staff who have complaints against them, one of the things they flagged was that you would have staff who had serious allegations made about them and they were still continuing to work. What is the process there?”

“Are you able to provide a breakdown of the use of force in the establishment, including in relation to how it has impacted minority groups?”

“Compliance with the MMPR protocol?”

“You say you do not know what happened before, but do you feel those sorts of conversations have improved staff ability to know where the right turn or the wrong turn could have been reached during an incident?”