Speeches by Green.

“So if you are in front of this Committee in 18 months’ time, most of this will have been resolved by then.”

“How would they know that they have a problem? In some instances, it won’t have presented itself yet.”

“Just to clarify, the wording that you are using will not actively discourage people from coming forward because they do not think they have a problem, will it?”

“The right hon. Member will know from his own constituency that there are some fantastic campaigners trying to protect chalk streams. In my patch, I have the River Chess Association, the Mend the Misbourne project, and the Chiltern Society. Does he agree that it should not be down to committed campaigners to protect the…”

“I am keen to hear from both of you about why your respective organisations did not collectively conduct sufficient auditing and monitoring to ensure that you had visibility of what was going on with these schemes.”

“At what point did you realise that you needed to do more monitoring?”

“Earlier, you mentioned having meetings with officials in the Department as early as 2022. There is a two-year gap there.”

“Just to stop you, in a previous answer, when a colleague asked whether you were receiving correspondence from members of the general public raising concerns with you, you did say—I am happy to be corrected if I have got this wrong—that you raised it informally in those operational meetings. If that is the case, why did…”

“Given that, earlier you said that the system did not function as designed and that you believed that you had fulfilled your role as an accreditation body, but that you can hold those certification bodies to account. I think that is what you said earlier. How is it possible that those certification bodies conducted the …”

“What is your organisation’s role in that? If you can hold those certification bodies to account, how do you do that?”

“My question is, why didn’t the system work? I do not think I am going to get an answer.”

“Why didn’t it?”

“I would like to move us on to the Government’s plans to fix the faulty installations. Figure 10 of the Report shows an estimate that over 30,000 homes have major issues still to be remediated. Clive and Deborah, how will the Department scale up the operation to identify and fix those homes with major issues that still …”

“How would those households know that they should get in touch? Are you proactively contacting them?”

“Is that one letter? Is it a phone call? How proactive are you being?”

“If it is concentrated in specific parts of the country, does that mean that you intend to use local media as well as part of that?”

“How long do you think it is going to take to identify and fix this? What is the timescale that you are currently guesstimating? I appreciate that it can only be a guesstimate.”

“It won’t have fixed it.”

“It is a quick one, and I am happy for you to write to the Committee if it is easier. It relates to our recent inquiry into civil service pensions and is simply a question about the procurement guidance given to Departments—when that is likely to be updated or reviewed, whether it is under review—and a related question …”

“We do. It is the best name. Bonnie, you mentioned the Top 75 programme. What have you learned from the challenges that that programme faced in trying to improve cost information?”