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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

I have the Charities Act up here. Section 181A prescribes three conditions to disqualify a person, all of which must be met. First, “the person is unfit to be a charity trustee or trustee for a charity”—yes. Secondly, “making the order is desirable in the public interest”—yes. Then, thirdly, at least one of six more de

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

He is still active.

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

I can. I was pulling together a mix of different quotations; I can find the longer ones if you would prefer, Chair.

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

If you will forgive me for pressing this one more time, in Ms Hall’s case the charity chair sent her repeated messages saying she is “nothing”, asked for sexually explicit photos of her twin sister from now and from when she was “young”, called her a “serf”, and, in one case, tried to call her seven times at 4.30 in th

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Happily. The charity chair sent the victim repeated messages saying that she is “nothing”, asked her for sexually explicit photos of her twin sister from now and from when she was “young”, called her a “serf”, and, in one case, tried to video-call her seven times at 4.30 in the morning.

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

This question is primarily to Ms Hilsenrath. The PHSO has informed the Committee that the decision was taken to lay the special reports under consideration due to, first, the likelihood of similar issues coming up again and, secondly, the fact that the PHSO saw the Charity Commission’s understanding of the way the PHSO

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Has there been a subsequent reappearance of these issues in any further complaints that you have had against the Charity Commission?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

That is really helpful. Do you have any concerns that the way in which the Charity Commission responded to the PHSO’s assessment of compliance with the recommendations might influence the response of other organisations in the future?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Sorry. Do you have any concerns that the way in which the commission has responded to the PHSO’s investigation might influence the future response of other organisations to recommendations made by you?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

According to your report, the commission said that throughout the investigation, as well as after, it did not agree with your findings. That struck me as quite a belligerent attitude. Has the PHSO had that experience with any other public bodies?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

I have two questions. One of them is very quick and just to clarify what I think we have heard, which is that the PHSO is saying that, up until now, the Charity Commission has taken the view that, in this case and in similar cases, it cannot take action against a trustee if there are not criminal-level proceedings agai

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

As would I, which is why I am sort of sitting here stunned, because that would have shattering implications for the commission’s work more generally and for a lot of historical safeguarding cases. As we have talked about, the commission has said that, as there were no criminal or civil findings against the chair of the

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

We will soon find out. Thank you.

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Your regulatory powers seem to be that you can disqualify individuals from acting as charity trustees and you can direct the winding up of a charity. Can you talk us through the circumstances that might lead to those actions being taken?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

We may come on to some more detailed questions around some of the specific cases. It sounds to me as though you are saying that in this case the winding up is not really appropriate because that is for specific circumstances, so your only available option is to disqualify trustees. It sounds as though the commission ei

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Mr Holdsworth, you have just said there are 1 million trustees. How many are typically disqualified per year by the commission?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Just roughly, are we talking tens, hundreds, thousands?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

That seems very low given some of the serious issues that end up being discussed by the commission and more broadly.

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

On safeguarding, I asked the representatives of the PHSO earlier if they thought that your understanding of the law is that you need criminal-standard evidence to take action against a charity trustee when there are safeguarding allegations; is that your understanding?

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2 Jun 2026Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee — Oral Evidence (HC 111)

Yes, but his wife is.

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