Speeches by Gill.

“Is it operating safely and securely, because in the end, we want transformation.”

“I started off by saying that this was an operation system designed by the NHS for the NHS. Who controls the data? The NHS. Who decides how information is used? The NHS. Who decides how access to that information happens? That is the NHS. In the end, this is about patient outcomes, and that is what we have to look at.”

“The conversation will especially be with the current suppliers that have partnered with Palantir in this contract, to talk to some of them and to big providers as to what their capability is, because we have to be assured that the end of any contract means continuity for patient care, because this is about patients.”

“I would have to undertake to speak to my colleague Minister Kinnock about the capacity within the ICBs. I am sure that will be very different in lots of different places. You are right that we need to make sure that the right expertise and the resource is available so that they can utilise the FDP effectively and make …”

“As with anything, we would have to give due regard if there was a breach of international law. What we cannot do is get into allegations.”

“We should always be mindful of conflicts of interest, and you would expect any civil servant, as you would expect any politician, to make sure that they declare any conflicts of interest that may arise. My understanding is that when the contract was issued, none of those people cited in the FT were part of that convers…”

“It is about talking to businesses where we already know that they have some level of capability. Some of those businesses just do not, and this contract was about partnering with British companies. Let’s not forget that three of the four are British companies. They have British employees. One of them is a Northern Irel…”

“I hear everything that you are saying, and I do not dispute that, but the question we have to be asking ourselves is: is this delivering for patients? Is it delivering for the taxpayer?”

“Absolutely. We will always horizon scan, but let me just be clear—”

“I support the Chancellor.”

“It will always be my priority to buy British where that capability exists. However, as I said, the NHS is not procuring a supplier. It is procuring capability, and we have to horizon scan and look at who has that capability here in the United Kingdom.”

“I can assure you that I absolutely agree with you. Governments should never become dependent on a single supplier. That is the premise of this Government. That principle applies not just here in the NHS but across Government. The NHS cannot afford to become locked into any individual technology provider. That is why th…”

“Absolutely not.”

“First, I am very sorry that happened, but nobody has access to the system without having a legitimate purpose, and all access is time-limited. It is audited. You know who would have access and what they need it for. There was an error by NHS England that meant that, in the data protection impact assessment that was ref…”

“It did not change who has access to the data, it just improved the description of who has access. There will be people who need to work on the backend, as you know, for a specific reason. They would have to have a legitimate purpose. It would have to be time-limited. The transparency in the system means that you can au…”

“The audit is accessible.”

“Because as I said, in the end, public trust matters, as you know, with all of this stuff. The NHS remains in control of NHS data. It is data that has already existed, but in different systems. What the FDP has done is it has just brought that information together so that clinicians in hospitals can make day-to-day deci…”

“We are not. I think it is great that there are local systems and that they are being utilised. Let me be clear, in Greater Manchester the hospitals are using the FDP; the ICB is not. We want to make sure that there are different tools within the FDP. Some hospitals use different tools because some of this is about adop…”

“My understanding in Greater Manchester is that all of the hospitals are using the FDP and the ICB is not, so there is a difference. The hospitals are using the FDP. We are saying that where there are good systems, we need to look at the different tools within the FDP, because there are a range of tools and we want to m…”

“I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for Isle of Wight West (Richard Quigley) for raising this very important issue, and I recognise the deeply concerning experiences that he has highlighted of families on the Isle of Wight, including the story of Maggie Bennett and the café that she runs. For people living with …”