Speeches by Shanks.

“I did not see all of the previous panel, but if I understand the point, it comes down to defining community energy, which is something that we will do. That is not quite the same, and so we do need to come up with a definition of community energy. Many people think, “Why is that complex?” The reason it is complex is th…”

“They have had some direction. They will get more direction on the principles, and the local power plan will outline more of what we want to do. I say genuinely that Ofgem has a very difficult balancing act. Although I and other Ministers will challenge it on many things, of all the regulators, it is aware of the fact t…”

“I have not prioritised them. They are all important, and they are all critical. If we fix the regulation, but we do not sort out the financial aspects or the capacity, there still are not going to be the projects coming forward. They all play a part, and we need them all to work in tandem. They are all the responsibili…”

“We consulted on how we would use that power. It is a very helpful power that the previous Government legislated for. I am not quite sure that they knew what they were doing when they did that. It is a really important power, but it has not been used, and so we have consulted on how we would enact that power. At the hea…”

“They are local energy projects.”

“Is it me? I agree with that. I agree with myself. There are multiple ways of looking at this. There is a straightforward way of communities benefiting directly, and you heard earlier on about the reforms that will allow communities to net off supply versus demand so that they do benefit from that. There are also ways—a…”

“I have slightly more than three things working in tandem at the moment, but I will leave that there.”

“We certainly want to explore it. We want to be much more innovative than we have been in the past about thinking about how the grid work, but it is not without risks. If individual projects can be absolutely certain that their private wire will meet all the demand that they might ever need, that is one thing. Where we …”

“The way that we have sought to deliver the clean power mission is partly how my Department is driving everything, which is to say that, in the past, Government have set out an objective, then gone away and let others just deliver it in the background, and hoped that the outcome would be achieved at some point. The clea…”

“The way that we have sought to deliver the clean power mission is partly how my Department is driving everything, which is to say that, in the past, Government have set out an objective, then gone away and let others just deliver it in the background, and hoped that the outcome would be achieved at some point. The clea…”

“What I said previously is that we are not going to fix a number on it, but there has to be a mix. The reason that I am saying that is that I want to avoid putting a number on it and that then being seen as a ceiling on our ambition on either local or on community. I do not make any judgment about one being better than …”

“I will answer it in a second. Emma was just going to come in on the last question, if that is okay.”

“In terms of the ingredients, if you like, for what is going to make this plan work, without revealing anything that is in the plan, because these things are all what came out of the consultation and what you will have heard in evidence from everyone, it is a combination. First, the regulatory system needs to make it mu…”

“I would need to check on the specifics, but many of the things that you have mentioned are considered in a broader sense in the planning application. By necessity, a planning application has to be based on the impact of that individual application on a local area.”

“We will say more on the plan, but we are not fixing a scheme.”

“I do not know quite how to take that.”

“Let me just say right now, knowing that it is on the record, that I am accountable for this. Ed Miliband, as the Secretary of State, has taken it incredibly seriously. We, as Ministers, are responsible.”

“Let me just say right now, knowing that it is on the record, that I am accountable for this. Ed Miliband, as the Secretary of State, has taken it incredibly seriously. We, as Ministers, are responsible.”

“I am not close enough to the individual offers. NESO is running that side of the process. The timeline has taken longer than any of us would have liked. Partly that is to do with the complexity of the individual offers. NESO has now completed its steps and it is with the transmission owners and, in turn, the DNOs to ma…”

“I accept that point to a degree, but in fairness this is not a Department that has set ambitions and then not followed them. We have set incredibly ambitious targets for 2030, and we have gone at it relentlessly. We are now going to set ambitious targets—the biggest commitment to community energy that this country has …”