Speeches by Onn.

“You did not maintain the numbers, because they went down. They fell over a three-year period. What did they look like three years ago and what do they look like now?”

“Are there too many bodies, too many groups? Might that be part of the problem?”

“How are they accountable?”

“I do, yes. Mark, I want to check on some numbers. You said that over the last year 16,000 people have been recruited towards this additional 40,000 target, but the NIA says 11,000. Why is there a 5,000-person discrepancy?”

“Mark, is the National Nuclear Strategic Plan for Skills—catchy title—on track to deliver the supposed 40,000 additional workers who are required by 2030? If it is, who is responsible for making sure that that target is met? Who is accountable for that?”

“I take a view on apprenticeships that they are harder to get, that the expectations of levels of qualifications are that those levels are even higher. If you are not meeting those requirements, you cannot even get a look in.”

“We have recruited 16,000 people?”

“The Nuclear Futures Institute at Bangor University says that, “undergraduate students, the number of Centre for Doctoral Training in fission-related subjects has fallen over the last 3 years”. That is not the same as your information. Why is not it the same?”

“Do you know what model the NIA uses compared to yours?”

“Directly?”

“How are they accountable?”

“I will draw that to a close now, Sue, because I have a couple of other questions for the other panellists. Thank you so much for that. Mark, we have had some evidence from other witnesses to this inquiry talking about the UK’s siloed approach to skills development and the different projects and different areas of deliv…”

“It is not an achievable outcome?”

“You do a survey of the companies. Do you get 100% return on the survey or do you have to extrapolate some of the numbers?”

“Do you include supply chain in this 40,000 figure?”

“Sue, how significant is the competition for skilled workers across different sectors, whether it is energy, defence, transport, other major infrastructure projects? Do you think that there is a risk to the timeline and timeframe for delivery of the nuclear programme, given that we have already seen quite extensive dela…”

“Are there too many bodies, too many groups? Might that be part of the problem?”

“What does the impact of that lull mean? What did the decrease look like?”

“How far down the tail of the supply chain do you go?”

“Do you know what model the NIA uses compared to yours?”