Speeches by Onn.

“It is not an achievable outcome?”

“You did not maintain the numbers, because they went down. They fell over a three-year period. What did they look like three years ago and what do they look like now?”

“What does the impact of that lull mean? What did the decrease look like?”

“Sue, how significant is the competition for skilled workers across different sectors, whether it is energy, defence, transport, other major infrastructure projects? Do you think that there is a risk to the timeline and timeframe for delivery of the nuclear programme, given that we have already seen quite extensive dela…”

“Are there too many bodies, too many groups? Might that be part of the problem?”

“Sue touched on it not being all about salaries, but are UK salaries career pathways—perhaps even entry pathways into work, different working conditions, patterns—suitably attractive, suitably visible compared to the international nuclear markets? Is there more that could be done?”

“The Nuclear Futures Institute at Bangor University says that, “undergraduate students, the number of Centre for Doctoral Training in fission-related subjects has fallen over the last 3 years”. That is not the same as your information. Why is not it the same?”

“How far down the tail of the supply chain do you go?”

“Do you know what model the NIA uses compared to yours?”

“How are they accountable?”

“Can people be removed if they are not achieving?”

“How are people accountable if nobody will be removed if this 16,000 does not materialise up to 40,000?”

“Does it all have to be about apprenticeships and graduate programmes? Are there other base-level training and entry routes that could be open?”

“I take a view on apprenticeships that they are harder to get, that the expectations of levels of qualifications are that those levels are even higher. If you are not meeting those requirements, you cannot even get a look in.”

“Mark, is the National Nuclear Strategic Plan for Skills—catchy title—on track to deliver the supposed 40,000 additional workers who are required by 2030? If it is, who is responsible for making sure that that target is met? Who is accountable for that?”

“We have recruited 16,000 people?”

“It is not an achievable outcome?”

“Are there too many bodies, too many groups? Might that be part of the problem?”

“Do you know what model the NIA uses compared to yours?”

“On the basis that I also used to do these surveys of companies and businesses and it was never that easy to get the data and get it in a timely fashion and accurately, and given that some jobs were on a part-time basis or a contracted basis or whatever it might be, how confident are you in that 16,000 figure compared t…”