Speeches by Evans.

“It is a pleasure to be here on day two in Committee. I will first address clause 5 and then the Government amendments. The clause marks significant reform to the legal foundations of mental health detention in this country. At its core, the clause seeks to update the grounds for detaining individuals under the Mental H…”

“The hon. Lady makes an excellent point. This is especially relevant when capacity fluctuates in some patients, which we expect to see more often with the kind of dementia that will potentially come forward —for example, some of the new illicit drugs that are available can cause significant problems. Does she agree that…”

“I cannot resist the opportunity to probe the Minister on something so important. He said that NHS England will predominantly look at this, but changes are happening there. Will he ensure that Gillick competence and the assessment of capacity will be at the heart of this? It is unclear now, given that it will take two y…”

“Clause 20 addresses a central principle in healthcare, ethics and law: the right of individuals to make informed decisions about their treatment, and the conditions under which that right can be overridden. Let me begin by recognising the objective of clause 20 as both important and welcome. It replaces the outdated an…”

“I welcome the Government’s recognition that modern technology can play a valuable role in improving care in the mental health system. The move to allow remote interviews and examinations for second opinion appointed doctors, through live audio or video links, reflects the realities of healthcare today and the potential…”

“The clause will amend section 61 of the Mental Health Act 1983 on the review and treatment of detained patients. The 1983 Act requires approved clinicians to provide reports on the treatment and condition of detained patients, particularly where patients do not consent to treatment. Those reports are integral to the sc…”

“I rise to speak to clauses 15, 17 and 18 and Liberal Democrat amendment 13. Clause 15 will amend section 58A of the Mental Health Act 1983 in regard to ECT. It is worth understanding the law as it stands. At present, if a patient lacks capacity to consent to ECT, treatment may be administered only if a second opinion a…”

“I am frantically trying to find the exact point in the explanatory notes—I think it is in either paragraph 114 or paragraph 115—about where the second opinion comes together. There is a reference to having a combined certificate. That seems to be a practical solution, but I worry about the crossover relating to who may…”

“My hon. Friend makes an important and poignant point. The Government have rightly stated that this change could take up to 10 years to implement, but we need to ensure that the most important safeguards are set out. Elsewhere, the Government have suggested that they will be in the code of practice. When we were discuss…”

“My hon. Friend is right: we agree that this is not a place for the police unless there is an absolute sign of criminal intent. The problem is that what happens is a member of the public sees something, reports it to the police and, naturally, it is the police, the fire service or the paramedics who come forward. If a p…”

“The hon. Lady makes an incredibly important point about the range of people who can and do respond in such cases. The Opposition are not saying that is a problem; we want to support them by giving them the legal backing and framework to step up to be the first port of call. Unfortunately, by default it is always the po…”

“The hon. Lady points to the fact that the police are named, as they should be. Imagine if we took out the police completely—whowould then have the power to restrain, restrict and detain people under the Mental Health Act? That is the whole point of having the provision. What we are trying to do is refine and constrict …”

“I bow to the hon. Member’s expertise on this; the problem is that all the evidence shows that the police are the first there. I would like to see much more of him and his colleagues being able to respond and carry this out. We are giving them the legal certainty to do so. That is the argument for making sure that we ha…”

“I would be grateful if the Minister could comment on the certificates being combined. There is a concern, if we go from two certificates to one, that the reason why two certificates were chosen in the first place could be lost, especially if the certificates are competing. There could be an incumbent preponderance towa…”

“I am grateful for the opportunity to scrutinise clauses 13 and 14. Clause 13 will make significant amendments to how medical treatment is administered under the Mental Health Act 1983 in circumstances in which a patient refuses, or is deemed to have refused, that treatment. The clause points us to significant questions…”

“You have actually caught me at a perfect point, Mr Vickers. The concept of therapeutic benefit is central to the second opinion doctor’s assessment. However, in clinical practice, interpretations of therapeutic benefit can vary considerably. How do the Government propose to ensure consistency and fairness in such asses…”

“Forgive me, Mr Vickers; I will get to the point a little more briefly, but the whole point is that the person has to be appointed through the CQC. The CQC will make that decision, because by definition it is the body that makes such decisions. If it is not resourced properly or if it has problems, regulatory or otherwi…”

“My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Under the last Government, the “right care, right person” initiative was launched with the Humberside police force to try to ensure appropriate care, but that is an example in isolation. One solution would be to include guidance in the codes of practice, but it would not have the sta…”

“It is a relief that we have not dropped clause 11, an important clause. Equally important is clause 12, on the appointment of a doctor to provide a second opinion. The clause will introduce the new framework for appointing second opinion appointed doctors under the Mental Health Act, which is indeed important. I begin …”

“The Minister makes an excellent point, and that is part of the reason why the Opposition did not want to spring this question on the Government in an amendment or a vote, but rather to have the conversation first, because this is an important clause to get right. The two sides can be worked on in parallel when consider…”