Speeches by Turner.

“Much of the investment that has been channelled through the private sector since privatisation has in fact been underwritten by the state, and by Government guarantees. I will not put her on the spot to list specific examples but it would be helpful if Opposition Members could give examples of an at-risk capital invest…”

“The Transport Act 1981, which privatised British Rail’s ferry operations, including the Sea Link service to the Isle of Wight, contained no passenger interest provisions of the type contained in this Bill. Does the hon. Member agree that such an omission was an oversight and an historical missed opportunity?”

“I am not sure that I follow the logic of the hon. Gentleman’s argument. Our job here is to look at the network and the service as a whole. This is an integrated, engineering, safety-critical industry of many parts, all of which interact with one another. This is a key point, and we have said it before: sometimes, hard …”

“It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Mrs Hobhouse. I will speak briefly and specifically on the attempt to introduce a passenger growth target. I think we have had the substantive discussion before, but it is worth briefly repeating the key points. The railway, arguably, is already incentivised to prioritise…”

“Could the shadow Minister advise me whether there is anything in his amendments or new clause that would exclude foreign state-owned railway enterprises from that definition of “private sector”?”

“Just to be absolutely sure, when you say a stick, are you talking about measures like congestion charging and workplace parking levers?”

“This is not the first time that central Government have talked about wanting to encourage and co-ordinate better transport integration. There is a wonderful quote when Barbara Castle was appointed Transport Minister in 1965, and Harold Wilson said to her, “Your job is to produce the integrated transport policy we promi…”

“The final question from me is the modal shift question. I am conscious of time, so please do not feel the need for everyone to come in on this question unless you feel compelled to do so. Would a focus on providing more joined-up journeys encourage modal shift and potentially reduce car use? If so, how, and how good is…”

“We have heard about good examples of integration being done well, both in the UK and internationally. We have also heard evidence that bringing different modes together at one point in time and space is not enough. Are there any examples of integration projects being done badly that you would like to draw to our attent…”

“I know it is a document we are all eagerly anticipating. Moving on to the way we measure transport benefits, some of which has been touched on in earlier evidence, what metrics should be used to evaluate transport integration and its impacts? I would like to start with Ms Carpenter. We would be particularly interested …”

“On bigger trials, what would an appropriate geography be for such an experiment in buses, in your view?”

“You have mentioned some examples of international best practice and where it has been done well. Are there any other examples that you wish to bring to our attention?”

“Good morning. I just wanted to pick up on Alex’s question about gaps in data and information, because the Committee has heard in other areas that there are important gaps between modes. For example, we know much more about rates of harassment on trains than we do on buses. So, thinking in two parts: any data collected …”

“Moving on to a general question, and there might be some follow-ups, depending on time and how we do. Before I ask you, I should let you know that there will be a separate question later about modal shift in respect of cars. What are the main benefits that integrated transport could deliver? Again, we are particularly …”

“On the international angle, it is sometimes claimed that people in Europe are more likely to be willing to make those interchanges than people in the UK. Does that have the ring of truth to you, and is it a result of better integration to start with, or are there wider factors at play?”

“That point about walking and cycling modelling, and not taking into account journey time savings, is really interesting. Is that a factor in the DFT’s modelling?”

“That point has come up in previous evidence sessions. Something we have been told in written evidence is that standard appraisal methods do not always serve particular areas very well, such as areas with unusual geographies or rural areas. For example, unusual geographies might include Cornwall or Cumbria. Do you think…”

“I suppose the benefits you have described, and Mr Johnson in particular described, are wider economic benefits. Is there any evidence of direct economic benefits for transport users? We are thinking about the up-front cost, which is often required from investment in integrated transport. Is there any scope for price re…”

“I wonder if I might invite Mr Jones to comment on this question as well, bearing in mind that your members will include these areas.”

“Basically, it is about whether there is a case for moving from a single national approach to a more place-based approach to appraisal and business cases. The question comes about from evidence we have had from Cornwall Council and other areas that argue they may be disadvantaged by the current standard approach.”