Speeches by Frith.

“rose—”

“The hon. Gentleman has been generous with his time today and in the process to date, and I thank him for that. I understand the Government have long maintained that this Bill is not the right place for these amendments. Given the Government’s anticipated removal of the Lords amendments and the use of financial privileg…”

“rose—”

“That is quite a low bar to affirm from. But in terms of your assessment of the Department, can you see within the year of your tenure now, is there quite a lot of waste or duplication? We have seen the Health Department taking quite strident action on NHS England. Do you see there being equivalences in your Department …”

“UK artists to the EU.”

“For the UK, not in the UK. For the UK in regard to EU touring.”

“In your 10-point plan for music you did not mention anything on copyright. Would you expect that to be in your 10-point plan, the protection of copyright in the age of AI?”

“For the UK, not in the UK. For the UK in regard to EU touring.”

“Isn’t that the problem? I do not see that as muddying the waters. I see it as recognising the ecosystem. If you are a music fan, you do not see it as muddying the waters that you see the band live and stream them afterwards, or vice versa. In fact, you routinely are told when the band you have been listening to is now …”

“On that point, perhaps, David, you want to answer it. I agree about R&D. I think if this was a scientific endeavour, it would be privy to R&D tax credits, for sure. The argument would be well made. As somebody who has had those conversations with our Government, I can say that it does not resonate, sadly. To that point…”

“UK artists to the EU.”

“You have obviously been in the Department—”

“Streaming, or streamer companies having an interest, taking more of an interest, taking more cultivation of grassroots music venues, since the streaming revenue begins with the emerging artists starting, finding their feet, cutting their teeth.”

“Hi, everybody. Thanks for this morning. Jon, you were mentioned quite a lot in the first session. I have a question for you: have you specifically asked Live Nation to get involved in this? It was decidedly absent from the list of praise from one of the previous witnesses.”

“Hopefully not.”

“On that point, perhaps, David, you want to answer it. I agree about R&D. I think if this was a scientific endeavour, it would be privy to R&D tax credits, for sure. The argument would be well made. As somebody who has had those conversations with our Government, I can say that it does not resonate, sadly. To that point…”

“Changing topic, the Minister has talked about developing a 10-point plan or a 10-plus point plan for music. What would you like to see that DCMS has not already committed to?”

“I said, “hopefully not”, as the recording will confirm.”

“When do you think Live Nation will become part of the programme?”

“Jon, a final comment.”